The Gift Of Maleness Part 5: The Third Chimpanzee and Male Suicide 

 September 21, 2018

By  Jed Diamond

The most tragic indictor of a world out of balance is the suicide rate in males. At every age, males take their own lives at rates much higher than females:

  •   Male 10 to 14-year-olds have suicide rates 1.8 times higher than females
  •   Male 15 to 19-year-olds have suicide rates 4.0 times higher than females.

During the adult years the rates vary between 3.0 to 5.4 times higher for males than for females.

In the later years, 65 to 74-year-old male suicide rates sky-rockets to 6.3 times higher than  females; 75-84 males have rates 7.0 times higher than females; and for those over 85, the rate is an astonishing 17.5 times higher for males than for females.

I’ve asked myself why young males are so depressed they are killing themselves when they have their whole lives ahead of them and why older men feel life is no longer worth living when they are at the top of their game and could be appreciating their successes and passing on what they’ve learned to future generations of males? My conclusion is that males are disconnected from themselves, from other males, from our male heritage, and from the community of life on earth.

In his book, Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression—And the Unexpected Solutions, Johann Hari says that the primary cause of our increase in male depression and suicide is not disordered brain chemistry, but our disconnection from critical aspects of life, including from:

  • Meaningful work.
  • Other people.
  • Meaningful values.
  • Recognizing our childhood trauma.
  • Status and respect.
  • A hopeful and secure future.
  • The natural world.

The last disconnection is particularly critical since it sets in motion the other losses and if not remedied soon may cause our children and grandchildren to grow up in a world where humans are increasingly separate from the community of life and vulnerable to becoming the another one of the many species that are becoming extinct.

For most of our evolutionary history, we saw ourselves as an integral part of nature, intimately connected within the web of life. In his seminal and iconoclastic book, Ismael, Daniel Quinn described two cultural stories that have been competing with each other. The old story was that all life was connected and there was no need for one species to dominate another. Quinn called those who live by this story, in harmony with nature, Leavers. With the advent of large-scale agriculture, 6,000 to 10,000 years ago, (what biologist Jared Diamond called “the worst mistake in the history of the human race”), a new story was enacted by people who saw themselves as separate from nature. They imagined it was their job to dominate and control the earth for the benefit of mankind. These people Quinn called Takers.

The Taker-story is now in danger of creating lonely, disconnected, people who may bring about the end of the human race. Thomas Berry was a priest, a “geologian,” and a historian of religions. He reminds us, “We never knew enough, nor were we sufficiently intimate with all our cousins in the great family of the earth, nor could we listen to the various creatures of the earth, each telling their own story. The time has now come, however, when we will listen or we will die.”

Males have been part of the Leaver story since the first male, single-celled, animals evolved 1 billion years ago, continuing through our reptilian history, our male dinosaurs, and early mammals. Let’s now explore our connections to our closest relatives the chimpanzees. In Jared Diamond’s book The Third Chimpanzee, he addresses a major puzzle that emerged in the 1980’s from studies of DNA. Diamond says:

“We routinely draw a fundamental distinction between humans and animals. Although it’s been clear since Darwin that humans evolved from animals, and that our closest animal relatives are the African great apes (the chimpanzees and gorillas), the enormous differences between us and (other) animals would have made it a reasonable guess that we shared even with chimpanzees and gorillas only a small fraction of our DNA: 20%? 40%? 65%?  Then came the bombshell of DNA studies of the 1980’s: humans and chimpanzees share more than 98% of their DNA!.”

Modern science is bringing us back to the Leaver story, that reminds us that our survival depends on our recognition that we are part of nature, not the dominant species whose job it is to control all the others so that this pinnacle species can take more and more from the community of life.

The Taker story makes as much sense as one in which the brain decided it was the dominant organ in the human body and its job was to take whatever it needed from the other organs. “Hey, I’m top dog here and you other organs must serve me and only me.” Of course, no real brain would ever do that, but if it did, the kidneys would fail, the lungs would become diseased, the rest of the organ systems would shut down and the organism would die.

Can we get smart enough to re-remember our true place in nature? Can we accept that we are not Gods that get to decide what’s best for all of nature? Can we embrace being the third chimpanzee, closely related to the common chimpanzee and the bonobo?

Rather than our kinship diminishing us, I believe it can give us great comfort and joy. We can know that we are part of a male ancestry that goes back a billion years. We are strong, powerful, and have a lot of males through evolutionary history who are wise and can pass their wisdom on to us. As Thomas Berry reminds us, “The time has now come when we will listen or we will die.”

I’d like to introduce you to three organizations that are doing great work to bring us together to embrace and support each other at this transition time in human history.

The Good Men Project was founded by Tom Matlack in 2009. Tom set out to collect stories about the defining moments in men’s lives. What he discovered was that the connected idea between all the stories of the men Tom talked to was that there was a moment when each man “woke up, looked in the mirror and said ‘I thought I knew what it meant to be a man. I thought I knew what it meant to be good. And I realize that I don’t know either.’”

The Good Men Project is a glimpse of what enlightened masculinity might look like in the 21st century,” the press raved when they launched. They now have thousands of writers (I’m proud to be one who has been writing for GMP since the beginning) and have over 3 million visitors coming to join in every month.

Evryman is a global community of men who come together to challenge and assist one another in personal growth. Their mission is to inspire and create a movement that redefines what it means to be a man. “We created Evryman so we could impact generations of men, to help them become better men, better partners, and raise better sons and change the culture of what it means to be a man. We believe men can and should be living more purposeful, connected and fulfilling lives. Men should be in touch with everything they feel, what they want, and learn to fully experience and express their needs and desires in a supportive culture and community.

Roman Health is an on-line health program for men. “Men’s health, and more precisely the relationship men have with their health, is broken,” they say. “How we diagnose it, how we talk about it, how we feel about it, how we communicate it, how we suffer with it, how we ignore it, and how we deal with it has to change. So, we’re fixing things. Because, as society has proclaimed, men like fixing things.”

Leave me a message below. That’s my reward for the time and research it takes to write these articles.

Best Wishes,

Jed Diamond


Founder and VHS (Visionary Healer Scholar) of MenAlive

  1. Dear Jed,

    I believe another factor that increases male suicide, especially at increasing age, is physical health and pain. Although the wrong solution, it may be a way of “fixing things.”

    Marlene

    1. Marlene,
      I’m sure issues with declining health and increasing pain are significant as we age. But women also have declining health and pain, but their suicide rate goes down as they age, while men’s skyrockets. It seems that men lose connections in ways that women do not. If I’m right, then we can help men develop and maintain our emotional connections with others and hopefully this will decrease the present suicide rate.

    1. Mark, I agree. Ismael was a revelation when I first read it. I decided to fly to Texas to meet Daniel Quinn and his wife. I’m so glad I did. He’s written many other books, but this one stands alone as a masterpiece. It won the Turner Tomorrow Fellowship of the one piece of fiction that could make a positive difference in the world. Well done, Dan.

  2. I honestly feel there is societal pressure more so on males to be successful and provide for the women in their lives..success is totally measured by what you own rather than your happiness and social media makes it nearly impossible to avoid that message to our young men who feel inadequate. We are constantly boosting the morale and welfare of young women know to recognize their inner strengths and potential…what about our young men? They need just as much support and are just not getting it. Instead they are made to feel they they are somehow judged by everything they do and if they are not financially successful by a certain age or have a secure future, they have failed.

    1. Jacqueline, Well said. I agree. We still make huge demands on men to be successful, which usually involves making a good living to support himself and his family. Yet, we have also created a world that is out of balance, jobs are often disappearing, and a man finds it increasingly difficult to make a living doing work that in fact helps humanity.

  3. That the development of agriculture and civilization was a mistake is nonsense. Prior to the development of civilization life was nasty, brutish and short. Civilization gave human kind the opportunity to develop intellectually. I would not trade what we have now for some idealized primitive existence. We have our problems but we have the mental capacity to solve them. Hunter gatherer societies are not the answer.

  4. Thomas, I wouldn’t want to go back to the hunting-gathering times either. But there were some positive things about how we led our lives then and some negatives about today’s world. I like what Terry Patten says. He begins his book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries, with these words, “Our times are strange and wondrous—so strange and so wondrous that they far outstrip our comprehension! Even as we are verging on world-changing breakthroughs in science, technology, consciousness, cooperation, and leadership, we’re also verging on catastrophic breakdowns of our planetary ecology, as well as our cultural cohesion, economic and social order, and, of course, our politics. It is wild, significant, inspiring, and terrifying that this is all happening simultaneously. We are clearly approaching a moment of truth.” What we do at this moment of truth may well determine the future of humanity.

  5. Thanks Jed, I will check out the book by Daniel Quinn, sounds really useful, and the other websites you refer to

  6. It is certainly more difficult and insecure for young men to make their way in this world for all the reasons mentioned here. To further complicate matters, I believe that marriage and children are risky ventures for men and I am currently advising my 2 beautiful, strong, smart young men to avoid both. This is society’s loss. In any event, this is where Mike Rowe’s take on work, school and some of the stuff I’ve been seeing from Jordan Peterson come into play. Just because it’s hard doesn’t mean that our boys should be able to spend their time playing Fortnite. Also, maybe if you don’t have the aptitude for college and a degree that will enable you to get a job that supports you and a family you SHOULD learn a trade and make your way that way.

    1. Markus,

      Interesting comments. Please say more about what you believe Mike Rowe and Jordan Peterson bring to this discussion. Also I’d be interested in hearing more about why you believe that “marriage and children are risky ventures for men and I am currently advising my 2 beautiful, strong, smart young men to avoid both.”

      1. I’ll do the best I can, Jed but that’s quite a bit to get out. As I think even you’ve mentioned before, with very few examples young males have no way to tell if they’re men, there’s no challenge, no ritual, no celebration. And, again, with very few examples, young men have no real life heroes…and almost certainly none that aren’t celebrities or atheletes. Acting and sports aren’t legitimate career paths for most people. And yet, we here “follow your passion” and that you need to go to college when neither of these things is necessarily a good idea. In some cases they are, but not always. But why would we be surprised? The political world is a disaster. Most of our male elders, who may be good men, aren’t necessarily heroic.

        So, the paradigm of the current “man/boy” is a real thing. They do what they need to at school, maybe, but for most part spend their time playing video games. watching youtube videos or elsewise glued to their phones. And there is plenty of blame to go around for this. Why do anything else? Are they being pushed to? Is there a reason to? Anyway, here are some links that scratch the surface of what I’m talking about here. The Mike Rowe one is perfect. For Peterson, you need to delve deeper but this clip is a start. The Chris Rock clip below is also the start of a great rant against telling kids to “follow their passions”. In fact, his whole special, Tambourine, should be required viewing because of this and his discussions of divorce and porn addiction.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65fhag6WPCQ

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzKzu86Agg0

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrabeOMyXAc&list=PLbDruHcp90rcnuYX0MzPZMx-8SvpHzV_H

        This is a nice segue into the divorce thing. My considered opinion is that the social contract is broken and men have more to lose in what is the almost inevitable divorce. Women are biologically programmed to, at some point, do almost anything, including overlook a man’s flaws, to have childen. Once those kids are out and the man’s flaws all the sudden start annoying the mother, she has few reasons not to kick him to the curb as she has been told by now that she should be happy in her relationship and she can find a good man anywhere. In the meantime, the law will make sure that the father surrenders enough of his income to make sure that the children are kept as much in the lifestyle that they are used to as possible. And if the father is very lucky, maybe he has custody of these children as much as the mother and maybe she makes a decent living and he doesn’t have to pay much child support. But in any event, he now only gets to see his children 50 percent of the time, his children will soon be around another man and he will soon be around a woman with children who aren’t his. Do you know what happens in the wild when a male realizes that any offspring aren’t his? And again, this is best case scenario. I’ve been divorced since 2005 when my kids were 7 and 4. My oldest will graduate college in 2021 and my youngest 3 years after. So, even though both will be adults as of May, I’m still helping to pay for college from a single income household even though I’ve been paying child support since 2005. Now, I could tell you about my divorce or how much I’ve paid since 2005 but most people anecdotally know several men going through this. Or if you’re curious, you can join a single dads group on Facebook and see father after father considering suicide because they’re paying unsustainable amounts of money to a woman who has maybe cheated on them or lied to them to support children they barely get to see anymore. AND, both parents wind up doting on the children because they’re competing for love and attention, which, incidentally, pretty much strips the father of the ability to discipline the children, almost certainly guranteeing the type of anti-social behavior we see today. Why should my kids see me as a hero figure when all they see is a man who has been emasculated and, though working, is always poor?

        I love my sons. They have turned into smart, responsible, fit young men despite all this. And my responsibility is to them, not to some theoretical grandchildren. I want them to be happy. And while children can make you happy, I don’t believe that this is necessary. So, as of now, marriage and procreation is too risky for men. If they get married and have children, I will obviously love my grandchildren but they are not necessary for MY happiness. And the risk of my sons going through what I do is too great, so I will counsel against it. I say this knowing that, if they fall in love with someone, all of what I say is going to go out the window anyway. But I at least get to speak my peace. My responsibility is to them.

          1. Markus,
            Just hadn’t had a chance to read until now. Thanks for the detailed response and sharing of additional thoughts. I haven’t had time to view the video clips, but will. The issues you’ve gone through with divorce are similar to my own. I got divorced when my two kids were young and dealing with the courts with its antiquated view that women were automatically better at being with young kids than dads, dealing with my ex and her anger towards me. My kids got through it all and now are grown and have kids of their own, but the wounds of those times are real and stay with us. This is why I do the work to share what I’ve learned and to guide and support others.

  7. I think everyone’s experience with marriage is so different. I still believe in marriage. Not every woman is out there to take advantage of men….my husband can attest to that. He had very little when we married and we are partners for life despite issues with our children who have health issues. Not every woman is out there to emasculate men and rob them of their dignity and their finances..the break up of the family however is a contributing factor to the issues our young men face today and their confusion as to their role in society. They are uneasy as to how to attain the goal of provider and protector when they can barely afford to take care of themselves with lower paying jobs, student loan debt. This just adds to their angst as to how they will ever be successful in a world that appears to measure success by what you own. Very hard time to be a young male. I see it in my son more profoundly than my daughter has ever experienced.

Comments are closed.

{"email":"Email address invalid","url":"Website address invalid","required":"Required field missing"}