Why Every Man Needs a Men’s Group 

 June 27, 2019

By  Jed Diamond

My life was in turmoil. My marriage was in trouble. My two kids were suffering. I was very successful at work, but the stress was killing me. When I saw the flyer in Mill Valley I almost screamed. “Men, come and share a day with other men and hear psychologist Herb Goldberg, author of The Hazards of Being Male.” The last thing I needed was to hang out with men. I’d much rather find a woman that was nicer to be with than my wife. But I had recently read Goldberg’s book and had to admit that he captured some of my deepest concerns:

“The male has paid a heavy price for his masculine ‘privilege’ and power. He is out of touch with his emotions and his body. He is playing by the rules of the male game plan and with lemming-like purpose, he is destroying himself—emotionally, psychologically, and physically.”

Something was clearly wrong with the way things were going in my life. I had grown up with a father who couldn’t make a living to support his family and I remember hearing my mother and her women friends talking about their men with such a pity, ridicule, and scorn, it chilled me to the bones. As a four-year-old listening in the corner, I made a vow that I would never let a woman talk about me like that. I would die first.

As I considered my present situation, Goldberg’s words about men rang true for me. “Men have lost touch with, or are running away from, their feelings and awareness of themselves as people. They have confused their social masks for their essence while fulfilling the traditional definitions of masculine-appropriate behavior. They are the heroes, the studs, the providers, the warriors, the empire builders, the fearless ones. And they are destroying themselves.”

I signed up for the day, figuring “what the hell do I have to lose?” What I learned, in fact, saved my life. The day wasn’t what I expected. We didn’t yell and scream. We talked about our lives, about our hopes, dreams, and what we really felt inside. The two guys who had organized the event said that those interested could meet the following Wednesday to discuss the possibility of continuing to meet as a group.

Our group is still together 40 years later. We still talk about our hopes, dreams, our needs, and our feelings. I’ve even written a book about what I’ve learned about men. It’s called 12 Rules for Good Men and it will be out next year. If you’d like to hear more, drop me a note to Jed@MenAlive.com and put “12 Rules” in the subject line.

I’d also like to introduce you to a new organization that is taking “men’s groups” to a whole new level. I met Dan Doty when he asked to interview me for a podcast he was doing. I shared my experiences with men and we talked about family, fathering, and our children. We hit it off and I learned about the larger vision he has to create and support men’s groups all over the world, through a new program, appropriately called Evryman (yes, this is the way they spell it and there’s an interesting story that goes with it).

I asked him, “Why Evryman?” and he told me, “It’s what makes more sense to me than anything else. I used these tools to address my own needs, and then realized the world needed them even more. Evryman is my opportunity to share with men and others all the amazing gifts I’ve received throughout my life.”

Dan has partnered with a group of guys who want to bring this work to the world. “Since early 2017, Evryman has grown rapidly across the globe, Dan says. “We’ve launched weekly Evryman groups, run retreats, expeditions, and launched our Veteran Integration Initiative (assimilating civilians and veterans). But we’re just getting started. We aspire to support one million men over the next five years through a community of men deeply committed to emotional wellness.”

One of the guys Dan connected with is Owen Marcus. Along with a number of others, he will be leading a men’s retreat in July, 2019, which I highly recommend. You can learn more here. Owen says, “My tenacity to champion a man’s greatness drives me to guide them through their pain, so they can step fully into their unique contribution to this planet. I’m proud that I turned being different (I was dyslexic) and very sensitive into an asset that I can use to help other men.”

In introducing the retreat they ask, “Ever feel like you have to be a different person at home, at work, and with your friends? It’s exhausting being what you think others want you to be. What if you could just be you… all of the time? Maximizing our emotional spectrum leads to greater connection, creativity, insights, and joy. Which leads to greater success. It’s the quickest way to discover and build the life YOU want.”

I do believe that every man can benefit from being part of a community of men. The poet, Robert Bly, reminds us that we all need to be in the company of men in order “to hear the sound that male cells sing.” Here’s your chance to be in the company of some high-quality men. Check them out here: https://evryman.com/evryman-event/open-source-norcal/.

Let me know what you think. Drop me a note at Jed@MenAlive.com and if you want to learn more about the new book, 12 Rules for Good Men, email me and put “12 Rules” in the subject line.

Soon, I’ll be offering a way to be more directly involved with me and to get your questions answered about specific ways to improve your love life including facing issues such as male anger.

It will be for men and women who want more, but can’t afford or don’t need weekly therapy sessions. To make it the best it can be and fit your specific needs, I’d like your feedback. I have a quick questionnaire I’d like you to take that lets me know what you might like from such a community. It won’t take you long to fill out. Please do so here.

Best Wishes,

Jed Diamond


Founder and VHS (Visionary Healer Scholar) of MenAlive

  1. I’ve participated in two men’s groups over the last 12 years or so. Wasn’t impressed by either. A lot of the ‘work’ seemed redundant as I’ve never strayed too far away from a counselor / therapist and have a few besties I can count on. That being said, since hitting my mid 50’s I’ve been re connecting with my male friends – even reaching out more to new relationships. My therapist has brought up the Mankind Project (which I’ve certainly looked in to) which doesn’t interest me at all. He went through and said it was an interesting experience but hasn’t participated or felt the need to continue the follow up. Maybe it’s the legalities and signing away my right to discuss my experience with anyone outside the group or naked night time raids or turning over my wallet, car keys and ID and my ability to leave or receiving some animal name – just not my kind of thing. The Evryman thing looks kind of interesting – if it’s a lot of things the Mankind Project is not.. I’d be open to exploring it.

    1. Daniel,
      Thanks for your comments. One of the great thing about men’s work these days is that there are a lot of options. Its great you are trying new ways to connect and reconnecting with male friends. Too often, men tend to isolate themselves as we get older. We don’t keep up friendships or make new ones. Glad you’re doing both.

  2. Daniel,
    I’m 67, and 35 years ago, I was coasting along in life, married, 2 kids, successful in business and just doing my ‘duties’ as a Man and provider, and thought everything was OK, when out of the blue my wife announced she wanted a Divorce. This resulted in us doing a lot of counselling and personal therapy work, where I began to learn more about me, what makes me tick, and my purpose in life was.
    From that ‘D Day’ announcement onward I became a bit of a ‘Personal Development Course Junky’. Have done numerous courses, seminars, trainings and retreats, and can say without any reservation, ‘I got something out of every one of them’! Somethings I didn’t like, some I didn’t agree with, some were very uncomfortable AND yet, by fully participate through each one, I learned something more about me and believe, today I’m a better Man for it, that my family, friends and business all benefit from.
    If you are looking to continue with what is safe and comfortable for you, in my opinion and experience, that is unfortunate. Everyone around you and especially you, are getting ripped off by staying comfy and safe.
    Those times that I had that uncomfortable feeling, got my back up about something or got the chill up my back were the times in my life when I learned the MOST about ME.
    My hope for you is that you get uncomfortable, see what is there at those times to learn about yourself and fully participate through it, while watching yourself, then choose to use it or leave it.
    Please don’t go by what your read about someone else’s uncomfortable experience that they weren’t willing to to look at, push through it and learn.
    Fully participate, with 10 toes in and then choose for yourself. Getting uncomfortable is a good thing!

    1. Ian,
      Thanks for the heart-felt sharing of your own experience. We all benefit when a person opens up and tells us the truth about his life and what he’s done to be a better man.

  3. Jed

    I looked at Erryman after you posted it. It seems interesting, more of a younger crowd. I was with you and Robert and John Lee in the 80’s & 90’s. Many men’s gatherings, retreats, drum circles, didn’t we call it Mythopoetic and didn’t Hollywood and Madison Ave just shred us to pieces? I was in a men’s group for 10 years through the 90’s, in truth I should have never left. Our disease is progressive so it doesn’t matter how much work we do, regression happens in a static environment. After 30 yrs of working on my myself I wonder what else there is to discover? The thing Bill W. discovered about himself when he was developing the 12 Steps is that service for others was a priority for recovery. That was missing or at least not highlighted as a requirement for stustained recovery. That is what speaks to me a little bit about my potential participation, having been around the block a few painful times I might be able to help another? But then that pain is a powerful motivator, so I wonder if one man gets to take a short cut if offered? I just don’t want to go down the EST rabbit hole again, been there done that; so I look at the next greatest thing with careful eyes and many scars. Any information about the upstarts would be helpful. Also if it’s real and not just another version of ______________. Fill in the blank, look forward to your response.

    1. Bill,
      Thanks for your post. I think many of us who have been doing men’s work over these many years have found support that is helpful and others that missed the mark. I’m just getting to know the guys at EVRYMAN. But so far they seem like they are doing important work and bringing in the younger men who will be the leaders of tomorrow. I’m glad to be supportive of their programs and activities.

  4. Jed

    OK, I may go to the east coast retreat in Mass. as its 40 min. from my house. I will do a little more research. Thanks Jed, always good to talk with you.

    Bill

  5. Appreciate the feedback.. but simply not interested in the Mankind project for a number of reasons but it has nothing to with comfort or being safe .. just a personal choice and not my thing. I’m pretty adapted to stepping out of my comfort zone. I just prefer to do it with my clothes on. We all have a different path toward self growth, mine’s not with them. Evryman looks to be more my style if I should choose to join another men’s group. I’m certainly looking in to it. Best of luck on your continuing journey.

  6. Thanks Daniel. I’m not pushing any particular organization and group. I just want men to consider being involved in some kind of men’s group.

    For most of human history men were naturally in men’s groups. We all went through a rite of passage initiation from boyhood into manhood and the age mates we went through the initiation with become a group we went through life with. We also were part of “work-groups” of guys who did more than hunt together, but walked in nature, put our lives on the line in support of our tribe, at times fought other males who wanted to take our resources.

    Now, we’ve gotten more disconnected from the land. Scouts is one way we’ve tried to reconnect, but as you point out, those relationships often end when we move into the adult world.

    I can tell you I have been in a men’s group now for 40 years and my wife has been in a women’s group for many years. We are also in a mixed group. Men’s groups have been a great gift in my life and I hope we all can return to a time when men’s groups were a natural part of every man’s experience.

  7. Awesome read! I am glad you wrote about this! My husband has a strong support group he calls his friends, and what’s great about having such a strong support system is that they are all able to partake in raising awareness to men’s health issues. I was just reading an article about raising awareness for prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and other issues here, https://www.ez.insure/2018/10/are-you-partaking-in-movember/ and it helps to have a group that can join in. Men need friends to talk about their health with, and support each other. It is super important!

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